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Thursday, July 14, 2011

ADDA President Seligman "Clarifies" False Pay Disparity Claims

In what can only be described as an embarrassing admission to the Los Angeles Metropolitan News Enterprise, ADDA President Seligman was forced to concede that his previous claim that “young deputies today start out tens of thousands less per year than City Attorneys,” was basically false.

Trapped in a false statement regarding pay disparities
ADDA President Hyatt Seligman was forced to "clarify"
that he was not making a fair or valid comparison.

Research by the Met News revealed that a Grade I LA County Deputy District Attorney's starting annual salary is $74,764.32, whereas a LA Deputy City Attorney I receives $77,130.72 annually, a difference of $2,366.40. When confronted with the apparent lie of his claim that $2,366.40 was a difference of "tens of thousands less," Seligman stated that he was comparing the annual pay of Los Angeles DDAs to that of Long Beach City Attorneys, a detail Seligman had previously omitted.

If Seligman thought he had the "Gotcha!" answer to the Met News reporter's question,  he was wrong. Another detail Seligman, perhaps conveniently, omitted was that the Long Beach City Attorney's Office does not employ entry level prosecutors, but only recruits experienced attorneys. It is fairly obvious that a comparison between a entry level Grade I Los Angeles DDA to an experienced Long Beach City Attorney is completely misleading.  

Whether Seligman just made a foolish, rash misstatement based on a lack of knowledge and research, or whether he deliberately lied to create the false impression that there was a substantial pay disparity is doubtless going to be a matter of opinion.

Some might say that as Seligman ramps up his efforts to secure an agency shop that would force all DDAs to pay dues to his ADDA union, he is cynically trying to manipulate younger DDAs into believing that his ADDA union can somehow rectify what he described as an "unfair" pay disparity.


If it was a ploy to engender dissent and curry support for the agency shop, it failed miserably. If it was a stupid mistake resulting from a lack of research and preparation, it perhaps provides the clearest evidence of Seligman's unsuitability for a leadership position when dealing with the interests of the 1,000 prosecutors he aspires to represent. 

Credibility is everything for a prosecutor, and having a leader who either made a deliberate misstatement, or was simply recklessly false, sets an appalling image for DDAs. Seligman should resign as his "clarification" just dug him deeper into the dirt, and will drag DDAs down with him.

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13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Before we get hit with the usual "we hate Berger posts," it's important that Dragnet is linking to to a Met-News follow-up article. That article is by far NOT an example of ambush journalism; Seligman wrote a letter to the editor and the Met-News, unlike the ADDA lackeys, did their due diligence.

Notwithstanding whatever anyone might think of the current District Attorney Administration, the whole mess underscores the lack of credibility in the ADDA Board and, especially, its officers.

Anonymous said...

Berger is the one who did not do his research. He just parrots anything his puppet masters (Cooley, Lacey, Jackson and Trujillo) tell him to say.

Young DDAa are horribly exploited by the administration and are vastly underpaid when compared to city attorneys who do not have to work nearly as hard prosecuting simple misdemeanors, whereas, like Hyatt explained, DDAs have to prosecute murders, rapes, kidnappings FOR LESS $$$. Cooley deliberately underpays young DDAs so that he can pay himself more than the managing partner of most downtown law firms, and it is only Hyatt who has the guts to stand up to this disgrace.

The Met News article was a hit piece that ignored the many hours of research that the ADDA board spent on finding pay disparities. There are pages and pages of spreadsheets showing that other DDAs in the country get more pay than LADA pays, but the Met News ignored that. In any case, the Met News is also just another puppet on Cooley's side show.

Federal Judge Otis D. Wright II has already agreed with Hyatt that Cooley and his administration have targeted ADDA members and what Berger and the Met News are doing is another example of that.

If you vote for the ADDA's agency shop, Seligman will make sure we get pay parity with Orange County and Santa Clara County, which are at least two counties where DDAs are paid a living wage.

Anonymous said...

@1:41AM makes a good point. Seligman dug himself deeper into the mud when he wrote to the Met News thinking they would not check the lies he was spreading. Seligman aka "Superman" made the sort of mistake that gives us all a bad name - arguing to judges and juries without knowing the facts, or even worse, deliberately twisting the facts - like Ipsen did in the double murder trial that got him reported for committing prosecutorial misconduct by the Supreme Court.

Anonymous said...

IMHO, Seligman did not lie, he was just plain stupid thinking nobody would check his facts. Also, with record unemployment in the US, and many people earning less than 33% of what a Grade I DDA makes, I don't think Seligman is making a very good point complaining about $75k+ annual salary.

The fact is that if you compare LADA pay to Modesto and many, many other counties, LADA pay is substantially higher. This a very stupid strategy and as Dragnet says or implies, it's just designed by Seligman to manipulate younger DDAs into thinking the ADDA is relevant to anything. We've seen this type of BS before, and it goes nowhere, it's just more white noise.

Anonymous said...

It is ironic that the ADDA shill who posted at 7-14-2011@6:55am either "forgot" to mention that the DCA's just had to swallow a furlough "arrangement" that will reduce their pay even more. Noticing that this doofus is stretching to bring Trujillo into this, this is blatantly an "Ipsen for DA" supporter. Predictable that he/she ends with a call for agency shop, this how the Ipsen campaign will be funded.

Does anyone have any doubt that there is mo firewall or any separation between the ADDA and Ipsen's campaign?

Anonymous said...

It is ironic that the ADDA shill who posted at 7-14-2011@6:55am either "forgot" to mention that the DCA's just had to swallow a furlough "arrangement" that will reduce their pay even more. Noticing that this doofus is stretching to bring Trujillo into this, this is blatantly an "Ipsen for DA" supporter. Predictable that he/she ends with a call for agency shop, this how the Ipsen campaign will be funded.

Does anyone have any doubt that there is mo firewall or any separation between the ADDA and Ipsen's campaign?

Anonymous said...

A pox on all atorneys.

Anonymous said...

@7:59, you wanna compare our LADA pay to MODESTO???? Really? Wow, good call. Great, fair, and intelligent comparison. I'm not exactly sure where MODESTO is, but I'm pretty certain that the cost of living in MODESTO is nowhere near that of LOS ANGELES.

Saying LADA pay is fine and comparing it to Modesto pay is like saying that Los Angeles is really wet and rainy...compared to the Sahara Desert.

Compare apples to apples, and look at LADA pay relative to places like Santa Clara. Hint: it's not even close.

Moron.

Anonymous said...

Berger, if credibility is everything, then why are you a DDA? Can you post a picture of your mouth flapping, but on Cooley's face?

Anonymous said...

Awesome article David, you've got these a'holes cold. Screw them, Dragnet rocks!

Anonymous said...

Its ironic that the organization claiming to advocate for the civil rights of rank and file DDA's has a leadership that reacts so pissy and vindictive at the slightest hint of criticism, especially from DDA's. At least Dragnet truly appreciates the exchange of ideas, running both the comments of supporters and detractors. Try to do that with the ADDA leadership. They'll shout you down in a heartbeat, then claim they're protecting your right to free speech.

Anonymous said...

Face it, the Met News nailed Seligman for lying about the pay difference between Grade I DDAs and DCA Is - it's $2,300 and change, not "tens of thousands" like that asswad wannabe porno star Superman Seligman said it was. All the Dragnet did was state the obvious.

Seligman, Ipsen, Naiman and and the rest of the ADDA Board (talk about a freak show) can all apply to Santa Clara County to become highly paid morons there. Of course, hell would freeze over before that sorry assed bunch of losers would ever get hired anywhere.

Good luck with your agency shop.

Anonymous said...

Someone printed out todays Dragnet on Seligman and posted it on the ADDA notice board at our office. Nice. Hey Berger, can you make your posts a little more printer friendly? The print is a little small.